Comments on: Biofuel vs. Photovoltaics http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/ Ed Ring's EcoWorld Posts Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:02:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: stephen miller http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-81894 stephen miller Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:56:32 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/06-16-2006/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-81894 Check out the Living Algae Machine by engineer Alphonz Veszolay which we are setting up at Ecoversity in Santa Fe- a promising path for small scale production of oil, biodiesel, and protein cake. (http://ecoversity.org) Check out the Living Algae Machine by engineer Alphonz Veszolay which we are setting up at Ecoversity in Santa Fe- a promising path for small scale production of oil, biodiesel, and protein cake. (http://ecoversity.org)

]]> By: Tom Catino http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1385 Tom Catino Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:55:04 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/06-16-2006/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1385 They have already figured out how to convert massive amounts of CO2 into massive amounts of algae/acre & algae into massive amounts of biofuel...all inside a CO2 Bioreactor http://www.gs-cleantech.com/product_desc.php?mode=3 They have already figured out how to convert massive amounts of CO2 into massive amounts of algae/acre & algae into massive amounts of biofuel…all inside a CO2 Bioreactor

http://www.gs-cleantech.com/product_desc.php?mode=3

]]> By: Duane Navarre http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1373 Duane Navarre Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:35:23 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/06-16-2006/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1373 Algae Solution: http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html They just need a way to seal the track ponds to stop massive evaporation, and then use a solar powered crawler to process the algae, and return it in place. Scaling this across any areas in the country that are largely unused and have high sun profile. 12% of the sonora desert could in theory replace all foreign and domestic fossil oil needs. It would overnight make the middle east worthless. If the oil companies would get onboard with this now they could run the operation and still make their billions AND not have to buy it from the middle east at all. Also VW has a 99 mpg diesel Lupo right now, imagine it as a plug in hybrid for in city slow rush hour traffic. onsiterepair@yahoo.com Algae Solution:

http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html

They just need a way to seal the track ponds to stop
massive evaporation, and then use a solar powered
crawler to process the algae, and return it in place.

Scaling this across any areas in the country that are
largely unused and have high sun profile.

12% of the sonora desert could in theory replace all
foreign and domestic fossil oil needs.

It would overnight make the middle east worthless.

If the oil companies would get onboard with this now
they could run the operation and still make their billions
AND not have to buy it from the middle east at all.

Also VW has a 99 mpg diesel Lupo right now, imagine it
as a plug in hybrid for in city slow rush hour traffic.

onsiterepair@yahoo.com

]]> By: Dana Shields http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1326 Dana Shields Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:15:37 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/06-16-2006/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1326 oops. There it is. At the bottom...sometimes the answer isn't on the surface! oops. There it is. At the bottom…sometimes the answer isn’t on the surface!

]]> By: Dana Shields http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1325 Dana Shields Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:14:19 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/06-16-2006/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1325 Why is it that in articles such as these, aquatic species for biofuels are utterly ignored. It doesn't take much to figure out that square footage calculations for land-based crops transform into cubic feet in water. To my knowledge, there's nothing that could compete with algae or plankton if we learn the simple task of harvesting it. (and for heaven's sake, you'd assume that a 200 years after the cotton gin was invented, someone could solve a problem this simple.) But this aspect of the equation is always blushed over as if it weren't even a possibility, and we blithely move on without even asking the simplest questions. Shame on us. Why is it that in articles such as these, aquatic species for biofuels are utterly ignored. It doesn’t take much to figure out that square footage calculations for land-based crops transform into cubic feet in water.

To my knowledge, there’s nothing that could compete with algae or plankton if we learn the simple task of harvesting it. (and for heaven’s sake, you’d assume that a 200 years after the cotton gin was invented, someone could solve a problem this simple.)

But this aspect of the equation is always blushed over as if it weren’t even a possibility, and we blithely move on without even asking the simplest questions.

Shame on us.

]]> By: William http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1221 William Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:34:31 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/06-16-2006/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-1221 Good news. Charging times under 5 minutes have been demonstrated already. It's just a question of economy of scale. http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/topstory/000881 Good news. Charging times under 5 minutes have been demonstrated already. It’s just a question of economy of scale. http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/topstory/000881

]]> By: e http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-691 e Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:22:16 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/06-16-2006/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/#comment-691 Great point. I believe that biodiesel is a good supplement today but not a long term solution. Implementation is very easy compared to solar cells as well. I guess if we converted solar energy to a more portable form (e.g. fuel cells) then cars could make better use. As far as I remember batteries still lack the capacity to go 1000's of miles on a charge, until stations were common, or posses the ability to recharge in under 5 minutes (maybe zinc-air). Maybe by time we figure this part out, we will have figured out new algae hybrids, and crop production techniques to increase biodiesel efficiency another 20 times. Until then, solar could be a real good channel of fuel. Great point. I believe that biodiesel is a good supplement today but not a long term solution. Implementation is very easy compared to solar cells as well. I guess if we converted solar energy to a more portable form (e.g. fuel cells) then cars could make better use. As far as I remember batteries still lack the capacity to go 1000’s of miles on a charge, until stations were common, or posses the ability to recharge in under 5 minutes (maybe zinc-air). Maybe by time we figure this part out, we will have figured out new algae hybrids, and crop production techniques to increase biodiesel efficiency another 20 times. Until then, solar could be a real good channel of fuel.

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