Comments on: Antarctic Ice http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/ Ed Ring's EcoWorld Posts Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:40:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: EcoWorld - Features » Blog Archive » Global Warming Priorities http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-90751 EcoWorld - Features » Blog Archive » Global Warming Priorities Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:24:41 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-90751 [...] - the southern icecap is actually increasing in mass (Ref. Antarctic Ice) [...] [...] - the southern icecap is actually increasing in mass (Ref. Antarctic Ice) [...]

]]> By: EcoWorld - Features » Blog Archive » Climate Catastrophe? http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-90748 EcoWorld - Features » Blog Archive » Climate Catastrophe? Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:16:08 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-90748 [...] have looked at truly alarming articles regarding rising sea levels in our posts Antarctic Ice and Greenland’s Ice Cap, and while they present some sobering possibilities, upon scrutiny [...] [...] have looked at truly alarming articles regarding rising sea levels in our posts Antarctic Ice and Greenland’s Ice Cap, and while they present some sobering possibilities, upon scrutiny [...]

]]> By: ellen prekop http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-39879 ellen prekop Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:40:52 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-39879 Hey Folks, Just happened on your website and will return! Great and thoughtful article on Antarctic ice melt, global warming, etc. I am very tired of Al Gore and his merry band of little green men! Hey Folks,

Just happened on your website and will return! Great and thoughtful article on Antarctic ice melt, global warming, etc. I am very tired of Al Gore and his merry band of little green men!

]]> By: EcoWorld - The Global Environmental Community - Nature and Technology in Harmony http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-9812 EcoWorld - The Global Environmental Community - Nature and Technology in Harmony Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:58:58 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-9812 [...] Here are questions regarding the notion of anthropogenic CO2 causing runaway global warming that all who opine might find worth personally investigating: - atmospheric CO2 molecules boil off the upper atmosphere and are self limiting - the impact of increasing atmospheric CO2 is non-linear, we’ve already seen most of the warming effect - global warming is caused more by sunspot and cosmic ray activity, as well as earth’s many orbital cycles (ex:  when earth’s orbit is more circular, the planet is hotter)  - recent measured temperature change just below the “CO2 belt” in the upper stratosphere is down, not up, contradicting fundamental runaway CO2 threat theories - anthropogenic CO2 is only 3-5% of CO2 emitted, the rest is natural - yearly fluctuations in natural CO2 emissions are an order of magnitude greater than all yearly anthropogenic CO2 emissions - there is evidence that historically (over the past several million years) rising CO2 levels were the effect of global warming, not the cause - the southern icecap is actually increasing in mass (Ref. Antarctic Ice) - greenland’s icecap is not melting at a significant rate (Ref. Greenland’s Ice Melting Slowly) - sea level rise is insignificant - much flooding is due to land subsidance - storm fury is more visible today because of overbuilding into marginal areas - the western arctic is warming but the eastern arctic is actually cooling - warming in the northern hemisphere over the past 20-30 years could be due to the interdecadal oscilation between the northern and southern Atlantic ocean temperatures - the most recent IPCC summary acknowledges there is no evidence to suggest the gulf stream that warms Europe may be disrupted - global temperature measurements are weighted towards areas that are increasingly urbanized, and urban areas absorb more heat - there are now over a million square miles of urbanized land, and this urban heat island effect could cause some warming on a global scale - transpiration from watered, forested land, especially in the tropics, is the forcing mechanism to maintain global monsoon circulation and prevent drought - in turn - deforestation causes drought, creating hotter land and additional heat island effect - the tropical forests have declined from over 7 million square miles to less than 3 million, and tropical forests release more moisture and are cooler than open land - using mechanized pumps, in the last 100 years we have depleted aquafirs in all the agricultural lands of the world, lowering water tables from, say, 10 meters deep to over 500 meters deep. The resulting agricultural land heat island comprises perhaps 10% of all land surface on earth - even taking into account the possible errors in measurement, the recorded warming over the past 150 years is about .5 degrees centigrade, not a significant amount - the claims that the last 10 years include several of the “warmest on record” is disputed, just as the claims the landbased icecaps are rapidly melting (net loss) is completely false - CO2 forcing theories and the computer models associated with them do not sufficiently take into account natural balancing processes in the earth’s climate regulatory system - the computer models that predict global warming due to CO2 rely on huge assumptions that are impossible to verify - the role of water vapor, land status, and solar cycles on global warming are gigantic wild cards in these computer models, which, depending on the assumptions made, completely change the predictions of these models These are a few questions that anyone who is listening to the debate about global warming should wish to hear answered. There is much, much more. Global warming alarmists and the things they’re trying to do are extreme. If you pause to consider the laws being proposed based on blind acceptance of global warming alarm, you may find many of them do more harm than good. In the name of reducing CO2 emissions, there is reduced attention to other pollutants, and massive new rounds of deforestation to grow biofuel. Technorati Tags: CO2 skeptic, inconvenient questions [...] [...] Here are questions regarding the notion of anthropogenic CO2 causing runaway global warming that all who opine might find worth personally investigating: - atmospheric CO2 molecules boil off the upper atmosphere and are self limiting - the impact of increasing atmospheric CO2 is non-linear, we’ve already seen most of the warming effect - global warming is caused more by sunspot and cosmic ray activity, as well as earth’s many orbital cycles (ex:  when earth’s orbit is more circular, the planet is hotter)  - recent measured temperature change just below the “CO2 belt” in the upper stratosphere is down, not up, contradicting fundamental runaway CO2 threat theories - anthropogenic CO2 is only 3-5% of CO2 emitted, the rest is natural - yearly fluctuations in natural CO2 emissions are an order of magnitude greater than all yearly anthropogenic CO2 emissions - there is evidence that historically (over the past several million years) rising CO2 levels were the effect of global warming, not the cause - the southern icecap is actually increasing in mass (Ref. Antarctic Ice) - greenland’s icecap is not melting at a significant rate (Ref. Greenland’s Ice Melting Slowly) - sea level rise is insignificant - much flooding is due to land subsidance - storm fury is more visible today because of overbuilding into marginal areas - the western arctic is warming but the eastern arctic is actually cooling - warming in the northern hemisphere over the past 20-30 years could be due to the interdecadal oscilation between the northern and southern Atlantic ocean temperatures - the most recent IPCC summary acknowledges there is no evidence to suggest the gulf stream that warms Europe may be disrupted - global temperature measurements are weighted towards areas that are increasingly urbanized, and urban areas absorb more heat - there are now over a million square miles of urbanized land, and this urban heat island effect could cause some warming on a global scale - transpiration from watered, forested land, especially in the tropics, is the forcing mechanism to maintain global monsoon circulation and prevent drought - in turn - deforestation causes drought, creating hotter land and additional heat island effect - the tropical forests have declined from over 7 million square miles to less than 3 million, and tropical forests release more moisture and are cooler than open land - using mechanized pumps, in the last 100 years we have depleted aquafirs in all the agricultural lands of the world, lowering water tables from, say, 10 meters deep to over 500 meters deep. The resulting agricultural land heat island comprises perhaps 10% of all land surface on earth - even taking into account the possible errors in measurement, the recorded warming over the past 150 years is about .5 degrees centigrade, not a significant amount - the claims that the last 10 years include several of the “warmest on record” is disputed, just as the claims the landbased icecaps are rapidly melting (net loss) is completely false - CO2 forcing theories and the computer models associated with them do not sufficiently take into account natural balancing processes in the earth’s climate regulatory system - the computer models that predict global warming due to CO2 rely on huge assumptions that are impossible to verify - the role of water vapor, land status, and solar cycles on global warming are gigantic wild cards in these computer models, which, depending on the assumptions made, completely change the predictions of these models These are a few questions that anyone who is listening to the debate about global warming should wish to hear answered. There is much, much more. Global warming alarmists and the things they’re trying to do are extreme. If you pause to consider the laws being proposed based on blind acceptance of global warming alarm, you may find many of them do more harm than good. In the name of reducing CO2 emissions, there is reduced attention to other pollutants, and massive new rounds of deforestation to grow biofuel. Technorati Tags: CO2 skeptic, inconvenient questions [...]

]]> By: Matilda Zuckerman http://ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-1349 Matilda Zuckerman Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:25:46 +0000 http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/09/01/antarctic-ice/#comment-1349 Nice article. Actually balanced which is rare in this polarized world. BTW, Antartica and Greenland aren't going to melt anytime soon. In many parts of those ice masses, the temperature has never gotten above freezing...ever. Risght now, sea level is rising just an inch every 10 years. This is faster than the one inch every sixteen year rate that was the rule for the last century. Nontheless, this is a very slow and manageable rise. Nice article. Actually balanced which is rare in this polarized world. BTW, Antartica and Greenland aren’t going to melt anytime soon. In many parts of those ice masses, the temperature has never gotten above freezing…ever.

Risght now, sea level is rising just an inch every 10 years. This is faster than the one inch every sixteen year rate that was the rule for the last century. Nontheless, this is a very slow and manageable rise.

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